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    Posted by cgc0202 on Wed 03 of May, 2006 15:55 GMT-0000 posts: 11

    Hi,

    I have a general question: Are the bundled plugins with the ne Tikipedia applied specifically for each page or global (for all pages)?

    I get the impression from the "demo Tikipedia page" created by Gary that the inserted information from the "Bundled plugins" are page specific — much like the info coming from a Dynamic Content System (DCS). Looking at the demo and the scripts shown, it seems also that some of the plugins may have some features that are not doable right now with DCS, at least based from my experimentations with the limits of what I can do with DCS.

    I have specific uses for plugins that could be inserted globally but I am also interested with plugins or modules that would work only as insertion for a specific page, like what could be done with DCS.

    A related question. Is there a good and systematized repository of the database of plugins anx modules that were shown to work with Tikiwiki. [I am aware that there are many features of Tikiwiki that may be applicable for what I need already, but with scanty documentation in the "Documents section", it is quite difficult to apply them. From my experience, and with no scripting background whatsoever, sometimes I was able to make some of them work, doing trial-and-error. More often however, it is like asking a child to fly a jet plane without any instructions whatsoever.]

    cgc0202

    N.B. [I found the plugsin list after following the links deeper in Demo by Gary. This does not seem to be a complete list though but more a listing of the official plugins/]

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    Posted by Gary Cunningham-Lee on Thu 04 of May, 2006 15:14 GMT-0000 posts: 254 Japan

    Hi,

    I have a general question: Are the bundled plugins with the ne Tikipedia applied specifically for each page or global (for all pages)?


    They can be used on any wiki page, with any theme.

    I get the impression from the "demo Tikipedia page" created by Gary that the inserted information from the "Bundled plugins" are page specific — much like the info coming from a Dynamic Content System (DCS). Looking at the demo and the scripts shown, it seems also that some of the plugins may have some features that are not doable right now with DCS, at least based from my experimentations with the limits of what I can do with DCS.


    They are page-specific in the sense that they must be inserted into a wiki page at a particular place in the page.

    Wiki plugins, it seems to me, are basically of two types: the first is just to extend wiki syntax, especially for when HTML isn't activated for wiki pages. The Tag, Split, and Div plugins are good examples of this type.

    The second type of plugin displays additional content, often from Tiki's database. The Module plugin (displaying Articles, etc.) is an example of this type.

    I have specific uses for plugins that could be inserted globally but I am also interested with plugins or modules that would work only as insertion for a specific page, like what could be done with DCS.


    The uses of wiki plugins and dynamic content blocks overlap, especially when the wikiplugin is the "display other content" type. But I think one way to keep the two distinct is that plugins are specifically for wiki pages, and dynamic content blocks are primarily for use in templates. Of course when used in templates, the (probably same) content appears every time the template is used. A wiki plugin can display unique content every time it is used, depending on what parameters are input for it and so on.

    A related question. Is there a good and systematized repository of the database of plugins anx modules that were shown to work with Tikiwiki. [I am aware that there are many features of Tikiwiki that may be applicable for what I need already, but with scanty documentation in the "Documents section", it is quite difficult to apply them. From my experience, and with no scripting background whatsoever, sometimes I was able to make some of them work, doing trial-and-error. More often however, it is like asking a child to fly a jet plane without any instructions whatsoever.]


    There isn't a complete list anywhere. Seems like people make plugins to meet a need at their own site and don't necessarily try to distribute the plugin. The mods.tikiwiki.org site was at one time heading toward that kind of function, but development there stopped. It'd be a good thing to get going again, encouraging people to contribute their plugins, modules, and so on.

    N.B. [I found the plugsin list after following the links deeper in Demo by Gary. This does not seem to be a complete list though but more a listing of the official plugins/]


    Right.

    -- Gary

    Posted by cgc0202 on Fri 19 of May, 2006 21:20 GMT-0000 posts: 11

    Hi Gary,

    I thought the new plugins introduced with the new Tikipedia theme may solve some of the issues I have been grappling with — but maybe I spoke too soon.

    I am still pre-occupied with introduction of dynamic photos into wiki pages. I wonder if you are familiar with any "plugin" or any feature in any of the various themes that would be able to solve the issue I presented in the main forum:


    While my goal would be individual wiki pages, as a first trial, I introduced the php scripts, similar to those included in the " test-page", in the aforementioned link into the "tpl" pages associated with the wiki pages. Unfortunately, the script did not work, as it is truncated (to disable script) once the tpl page was saved.

    There is a sample portion of the "php script" (found scattered all over tha page) in the " test-page", cited in the above link to the forum post.

    Since the "php script" was introduced to a "tpl" pages in the wiki (header.tpl, tiki-show_page.tpl, etc.), can this be solved by converting the "php script" to "Smarty"? How? [If this work, it will be useful for "global" introductionn of random dynamic pics that will show in all wiki pages.]

    However, even if the above works, the key issue would still be how to introduce the dynamic photos in specific (rather than global) wiki pages.

    Is there any specific plugin in the new Tikipedia theme (adaptable to the other themes) that could address the aforementioned goal?

    Thanks.

    cgc0202

    Posted by Gary Cunningham-Lee on Sun 21 of May, 2006 02:00 GMT-0000 posts: 254 Japan

    Hi Gary,
    ...
    I am still pre-occupied with introduction of dynamic photos into wiki pages. I wonder if you are familiar with any "plugin" or any feature in any of the various themes that would be able to solve the issue I presented in the main forum:

    ...


    As I responded in the tw.o forum, Tiki's random image module might work, if you simply want random thumbnails. With this module you can specify the gallery. The module plugin would be used to put the module in the wiki page.

    What logic or selection criteria or whatever is needed for the images?

    I don't know of anything existing that will display a random full-size image in Tiki, but it seems like it wouldn't be too hard to modify the random thumbnail code to do that.

    -- Gary