History: TikiFest Montreal CSS and Themes discussion

Pascal

Cleanup css tags in templates.

• divs with the attribute "elegant" eg. in tiki-editquiz.php
• align tags in divs
• clear tags.

question are we willing to break existing custom themes that are out there?

needs to be properly documented - advance waring

removing all alltributes that are not xhtml compliant - forcing the removal of most attributes that cause a nuisance.

compliance tools: use zvon.org as a reference on what is valid or not.

to chack if a given tpl is valid. use the firefox developer tools extentions

themes in mods.

all themes made in themes.tiki.org and may old themes are in mods.tiki.org

for these themes to work they have to be consistent with tiki 2

lite css as default theme.

default templates.

wiki template shoudl have button row appear at top or botom or both.

wiki UI and site idenity

can we turn on all the features and then design them so that they are not ugly together.

using java is desrable but the rule should be not to break tiki

more and more stringent guidelines are emerging for standards like accessibility.

site identity

site identity allowed certain parts of the theme to be contained in the database. this makes it much easier to upgrade sites with custom themes because the special header is defined by the database.

Basic layout

can we provide for user to pick a basic layout.

disscussion could we have different tpls for differt.

iframe
wordpress or kubrick style

discussion favors keeping to a single (if more complicated) tiki.tpl

default theme for tikiwiki 3.0

avoid forked tiki

tikiwiki should ship with

darkroom
tikinewt
thenews
simple

default theme should be the theme of the tikiwiki.org website.
default theme should be sexy and flexible because many peple should not change.

tiki.tpl should there be just one?

kubrick? rejected for simplicity
no forking of tpl's period.

move everthing possible to separate tpls so that only layout exists in tiki.tpl

background image configurable in the admin panel

ability to override themes with DB managed theme - then themes could be managed with profiles.

a template template

devtools

-a template template - what we think a template should be.

a wiki page to read showing a TemplateBestPractices

Most readable CSS

topstyle css editor shows all the colors.

included
color manager
Layout
basic html
sitewide classes
feature specific classes

CSS Best practices

modify as few templates as possible

use diplay:none instead of removing code if you want to hide things.