History: Bootstrap Transition Preps
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As part Theme Revamp, this page is to discuss, and plan an eventual transition to using Bootstrap in Tiki. As there is a general consensus we should move in the general Bootstrap direction (the minimum being the ability to use Bootstrap themes), the remaining questions are no longer "if" but more "how" and "when"
An experimental branch is here: http://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/HEAD/tree//branches/experimental/redesign-proof-of-concept/
Questions
- Where will we coordinate work?
- I think on themes.tiki.org
- Bootstrap 2 and later 3, or directly to Bootstrap 3?
- Licensing issue prevents us use Bootstrap 2
- There are several non backward-compatible changes
- I suggest we shoot for compatibility with Bootstrap 3 to avoid doing a lot of work twice.
- What about LTS handling?
- Option 1: start revamp after Tiki12 LTS
- Benefit: We can do pre-requisites
- Benefit: We can start with migration of some aspects such as Menu Revamp and http://twitter.github.io/bootstrap/customize.html#plugins so we have less work later.
- Benefit: We can start directly with v3
- Benefit: Community has several months to get accustomed to Bootstrap
- Benefit: No change on the schedule
- Drawback: First LTS with Bootstrap will be Tiki15
- Drawback: We could have started earlier
- Option 2: start after 11.0 and try to finish for Tiki12
- If Tiki12 isn't stable enough for a release on schedule, either
- Option 2a) Retroactively identify Tiki11 as LTS
- Option 2b) Identify Tiki13 as LTS
- If Tiki12 isn't stable enough for a release on schedule, either
- Option 1: start revamp after Tiki12 LTS
- Do we try to support Foundation as well?
Evolution or revolution?
Do we go for a clean break / "burn all bridges" approach and force major changes on all legacy themes? or do we make an effort to try to make old themes still work?
Arguments for clean break
- End result will be simpler code
- End result will be closer to what people already know (people that use Bootstrap that is)
- Most theme intense sites have more than enough features in the LTS versions and can use that until they decide to refresh their site design.
Arguments for legacy support
- Makes it easier for heavily customized themes to upgrade
Things to watch out for
Things that Bootstrap doesn't cover
- Logo?
- Presumably, Tiki's HTML classes will be a superset of the Bootstrap classes, so our current method for specifying the logo can still be used, in combination with the benefit of Bootstrap's layout.
- RTL is not in v2
- Licensing issue prevents us use Bootstrap 2 anyway
- Let's use http://schema.org/ when possible
- I do not understand how do Schema attributes validate in HTML - luci
- luci, I think the suggestion was to use them for element/class names, etc.
Things that Bootstrap overlaps with existing components
- http://twitter.github.io/bootstrap/customize.html#plugins
- jQueryUI
- jQuery Mobile
Pre-requisites
In general
- This is a lot of work
- True, but Tiki's templates and CSS really need a major overhaul anyway. If that happens in a way that can take advantage of the Bootstrap bandwagon (as long as we still have design flexibility), so much the better.
In version 3.0
- No set release date, but probably sometime in 2013
- Many changes in class names
- Dropping submenu support
- https://github.com/twitter/bootstrap/tree/3.0.0-wip